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Both Christians and Muslims have hundreds of violent years behind them. The only solution for this conflict could be a rehabilitation camp up in Tibet. It's the proper place to learn about serenity.

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I think world needs religion to maintain a certain order. Off course there are laws for every country but people have a different view about them. Religion is much more powerful and it really helps.Regarding the world conflicts, i haven't figured out the cause...it's beyond my understanding.

Emily said...
They can’t live in harmony for the simple fact that they think they are the only ones to be right about the truth. The second reason refers to the fact that they want to have as many members as possible and they can’t tell a new one that those whom he has just flee from were almost right about God.

Lionel said...
Worth visiting Dawkin's new site at:
http://www.richarddawkins.net/
I found the Liddle review and the Ryan Tubridy interview worth responding to, for now.

Lionel said...
You had me worried Paul but my copy of 'The God Delusion' arrived today.
I would like to thank Dawkins for providing back-up to one of my long standing assertions (often put forward on ZFC) on the origin of religious belief in individuals. This is that mind altering substances play a key role, either taken extraneously by accident or by design, or brought on by some form of mass hysteria.
Dawkins pins this one to the wall with his mention of the US Supreme Court ruling, on 21 February 2006 that members of the Centro Espirita Beneficient Uniao do Vegetal be allowed to carry on drinking hoasca tea which contains the hallucinogenic drug dymethyltryptamine despite that drug being an otherwise banned substance.
Looks like we could be set to witness an explosion of religions based around the imbibing of sativa tea or TCH tea.
One can get away with anything as long as it is under the banner, shield, of religion. How do we know this? The Bible tells us so.

Paul said...
My copy of the "God Delusion" arrived today. Looks interesting. Now need to work out what order to read things in. Got far too many books to read at the moment.

Gavin Wraith said...
Slightly off topic, but I thought you might enjoy some lively text from Samuel Harsnet's Declaration. It is at
http://www.wra1th.plus.com/gcw/excerpts/Harsnet.html

Lionel A Smith said...
Paul,
I missed that Dawkins Radio interview and could not find a link to it on the Beeb website. I found many other items on Dawkins including a recording of a current Paxman, Newsnight interview.
Gavin,
In response to your, 'The current increase in the climate of fear can be seen as a counter-stroke of superstition against rationalism' I would add that this is more down to the working out of the PNAC (Project for the New American Century) so as to ensure mastery of shrinking global energy resources. It would appear that instigators of PNAC have had to improvise and re-group in the light of disappointing Caspian area reserves.
Otherwise I agree with your assessment that religion is a means of control. This is why I back the message that Dawkins puts over.

Paul said...
Thanks for that Gavin. Very interesting.
Also, Lionel, did you hear the interview with Dawkin's on BBC Radio 4 this morning. Sounds like The God Delusion might be an interesting read....

Gavin Wraith said...
According to Fraser's "The Golden Bough" religion appeared in primitive societies as a mechanism for coping with ignorance about matters that might affect survival. Saying "the gods made it" is a way of saying "I do not know what it is but I suspect that it is important". Priests and politics stem from the realization that if you can pretend to arcane knowledge you can control people through fear. Samuel Harsnet wrote very clearly on this in "A Declaration of Egregious Popishe Impostures" in 1603. The current increase in the climate of fear can be seen as a counterstroke of superstition against rationalism.

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I must get around to reading The Blind Watchmaker again, as I've forgotten some of it's excellent arguments. Might come in handy for ZFC.

Lionel said...
Unweaving the Rainbow is a good one to put under the noses of those who naysay evolution with some building upon themes from The Blind Watchmaker.
A Devil's Chaplain is not all Dawkins. Dawkins in this uses the writings of others, including Douglas Adams and Stephen Jay Gould, with his own introductory essays or amplifications interleaved.

Lionel said...
Dawkin's next book 'The God Delusion' is out at the end of this month, or early October, and promises to expand on arguments in A Devil's Chaplain. I have not yet finished his last book, 'The Ancestor's Tale' which is a mommoth (nothing woolly about the arguments therein though) work par exellence.

Paul said...
I shall have to keep an eye out for that one. Thanks.
Mind you, I've still not read " Unweaving the Rainbow" yet!

Lionel A Smith said...
Correction to my earlier comment, 'A Devil's Advocate' should have read, 'A Devil's Chaplain'. Uh! Oh!

NR said...
Were Muslims really offended or were they simply told that they were offended....
NR

Lionel A Smith said...
It would help if more folk read 'A Devil's Advocate' by the illustrious Richard Dawkins then they will learn that religious beliefs are but viruses of the mind and thus require immediate medication in the form of a dose of rationality. All IMHO of course.